Facebook Share

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Calling all non-religious pot-heads. Lets talk here..
#21
Well I believe that theres a huge possibility that there is life out there. If some one can show me a credible evidence that aliens exist eh saka na ko maniniwala.
I only pretend to grow and consume illegal cannabis. I have no knowledge what so ever on any scheduled substance because I know and respect the governing law in the Republic of the Philippines. All pictures and dialogue posted by me is entirely copyrighted from those who wish to to ignore the law.
Reply
#22
I have to agree with OscartheGrouch. I would like to expound.

I define atheism as a lack of belief in a god or gods. I firmly don't believe in a "personal god" as we have it here in the Philippines and the rest of the world. Nothing fails like prayer and those who say that their "prayers" have been answered are grossly misinterpreting coincidence. Believers say that their God can work "miracles" and I say that their God can't do the impossible. I'll give you an example. Believers would say that their cancer has been cured by prayer and there have been documented cases where cancers have receded and eventually eradicated. BUT there have been no documented or even undocumented cases where prayers have worked for regenerating severed limbs. An amputee will remain that way no matter how hard they pray for their limbs to grow back(the only assurance they get is that they will be whole again in the kingdom of heaven). God cannot do the impossible. But when science figures out how to regenerate severed limbs through understanding our genetics, the religious will claim that their God allowed scientists to discover it(or some bullshit like that).

I'm sorry if I got carried away about the personal god thing.

As for your question CheX, atheism is a way of thinking. A personal god doesn't exist but the verdict is still out for everything else that does not have sufficient empirical evidence. In that sense, I am agnostic if we're talking about Aliens, unicorns, zombies, divine beings, and a whole bunch of other things fall in that category. I am also willing to retract my atheistic view if a personal god does reveal itself but not just to me, I should be able to prove it to others by providing empirical evidence.
There\'s no "I" in "Team", but there\'s a "We" in "Weed"

~Hyugz
Reply
#23
Quote:Although it says "non-religious" and "pot-heads", everyone is welcome to participate.

Fair Warning: Topics and discussions found in this thread, may involve "negative" views on religion. Topics and discussions here are for academic purposes only. If you feel that you are the type of person who can't take criticism well, this forum might not be you. Enter at your own risk.
There\'s no "I" in "Team", but there\'s a "We" in "Weed"

~Hyugz
Reply
#24
Quote:(the only assurance they get is that they will be whole again in the kingdom of heaven). God cannot do the impossible. But when science figures out how to regenerate severed limbs through understanding our genetics, the religious will claim that their God allowed scientists to discover it(or some bullshit like that).

thanks Hyugz for opening this topic.

Im am born as a catholic
but i have so many question in terms of faith and religion..
im just clinging on what you post above (the only assurance they get is that they will be whole again in the kingdom of heaven) as i lost my love ones.
but most of the time i really disagree on the inhumanism & irationalism of most of the religions.
Reply
#25
Hey ericjohn,

Thank you for opening up and I'm sorry to have replied so late. If you have just recently come to terms that religion doesn't make sense in the world as we know it today, I would like to formally welcome you to reality. (Caution: reality bites)

"Im am born as a catholic" - I was also born a Catholic. Think about it though. We had no choice in the matter. I'm assuming that you were also born in Luzon if not Visayas. Because if you were born in Mindanao, chances are that you will be born in Islam (which offers very little independent thought). If we were born in Japan, we would probably be Buddhists. Or in India, we will be Hindu. Or in Saudi Arabia, we will definitely be Muslim. You probably get the idea by now. Your religion depends on where you were born. You were never given a choice. Now that you're old enough to think for yourself, its up to you to decide on what's true or false.

"but i have so many question in terms of faith and religion.." - You should question everything. Even the things that I'm saying here. Don't take my word for it friend. We have the internet now. A world of information is at your finger tips! But don't forget to put your "skeptical cap" on when assessing information on the internet. For example, don't believe everything you see on facebook. Learn to scrutinize information by verifying different sources and finding out the truth for yourself instead of relying on a book or what priest says.

"im just clinging on what you post above (the only assurance they get is that they will be whole again in the kingdom of heaven) as i lost my love ones." - I'm not sure if you understood what I meant by this but you should have comfort in knowing that your loved ones still reside in you. The memories you have for them are alive in your mind. Although your loved ones are no longer part of the universe(as far we know it now), you can keep their memories alive by telling stories about them to the next generation. That is how humans remembered things before ink and paper were invented.

"but most of the time i really disagree on the inhumanism & irationalism of most of the religions." - all religions are going to be irrational and inhumane to future generations. The religions we have now are already obsolete when it comes to todays standards of living. At one point in time, it was perfectly within the man's right to treat his wife and children as his property. Do as he pleases. If they were insubordinate, he had the right to beat them to death. Try doing that in this day and age and you'll land yourself in jail.

I hope I didn't confuse you with this long reply. I would love to hear what you have to say in return!
There\'s no "I" in "Team", but there\'s a "We" in "Weed"

~Hyugz
Reply
#26
Nabasa ko na tong thread na toh dati pero nalimutan ko na ang flow ng usapan. Gusto ko lang i-save dito ilang mga thoughts ko. Siguro pagdating ng araw ay mas maiintindihan ko at babalikan basahin toh. Kadalasan ay pagtataka lang. Idea na nageexist na lahat at tayo ay energy lang na dumadaloy sa kung saan natin gusto. Tayo ang supreme being. Ang bawat piraso ay tayo.


Bakit kaya di na humaba ang thread na toh? Sana marinig ko din ang nasa loob ninyo. Weedpoke
Reply
#27
(02-19-2015, 10:23 PM)highshon Wrote:  Nabasa ko na tong thread na toh dati pero nalimutan ko na ang flow ng usapan.  Gusto ko lang i-save dito ilang mga thoughts ko. Siguro pagdating ng araw ay mas maiintindihan ko at babalikan basahin toh. Kadalasan ay pagtataka lang. Idea na nageexist na lahat at tayo ay energy lang na dumadaloy sa kung saan natin gusto. Tayo ang supreme being. Ang bawat piraso ay tayo.


Bakit kaya di na humaba ang thread na toh? Sana marinig ko din ang nasa loob ninyo. Weedpoke

The Egg

By: Andy Weir
 
You were on your way home when you died.
It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.
And that’s when you met me.
“What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?”
“You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.
“There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”
“Yup,” I said.
“I… I died?”
“Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said.
You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?”
“More or less,” I said.
“Are you god?” You asked.
“Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”
“My kids… my wife,” you said.
“What about them?”
“Will they be all right?”
“That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.”
You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.
“Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”
“Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?”
“Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”
“Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”
“All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.”
You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?”
“Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.”
“So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.”
“Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.”
I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had.
“You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”
“How many times have I been reincarnated, then?”
“Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.”
“Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?”
“Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.”
“Where you come from?” You said.
“Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”
“Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.”
“Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.”
“So what’s the point of it all?”
“Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?”
“Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted.
I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.”
“You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”
“No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.”
“Just me? What about everyone else?”
“There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.”
You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…”
“All you. Different incarnations of you.”
“Wait. I’m everyone!?”
“Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.
“I’m every human being who ever lived?”
“Or who will ever live, yes.”
“I’m Abraham Lincoln?”
“And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.
“I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.
“And you’re the millions he killed.”
“I’m Jesus?”
“And you’re everyone who followed him.”
You fell silent.
“Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”
You thought for a long time.
“Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”
“Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.”
“Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?”
“No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.”
“So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”
“An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.”
And I sent you on your way.
 
 
I only pretend to grow and consume illegal cannabis. I have no knowledge what so ever on any scheduled substance because I know and respect the governing law in the Republic of the Philippines. All pictures and dialogue posted by me is entirely copyrighted from those who wish to to ignore the law.
Reply


Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)